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Kendrick Lamar doesn’t do much interviews, but when Dave Chappelle is the interviewer, who can turn that down.

K.Dot sat down with Chappelle do have a conversation between friends for Interview Magazine. They spoke on music, Kathy Griffin beheading Donald Trump, a little sports, Tupac, DAMN, and much more.

LAMAR: As I’ve grown as an artist, I’ve learned that my mission statement is really self-expression. I don’t want anybody to classify my music. I want them to say, “This is somebody who’s recognizing his true feelings, his true emotions, ideas, thoughts, opinions, and views on the world, all on one record.” I want people to recognize that and to take it and apply it to their own lives. You know what I’m saying? The more and more I get out and talk to different people, I realize they appreciate that—me being unapologetic in whatever views and approach I have.

CHAPPELLE: That’s the way I like to do it, as well: go for broke. It feels better to just say it. Is “Duckworth” [a track on DAMN. in which Lamar narrates the story of his father, “Ducky,” preventing an armed robbery, as well as his own potential murder, at the KFC where he was then working to provide for Lamar] a true story?

LAMAR: True story, and one of my favorite records on the album. 

CHAPPELLE: A profound story, too. I like the meditation of it.”

For more of the interview, check it out HERE.

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